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  "Forced" study with an Elder - The first question i will pose, help appreciated.

  by CitizenofEarth in

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  hello folks.

  as some of you might know my dad couldnt keep quiet about my view of the world, so i have been "forced" to study with an elder.

  otherwise i would be dragged to questioning, which is to much pressure for a young inexperienced person like me.

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  Have fun! No sarcasm or irony intended.

  Do your research secretly, but play along. Use the "Bible" study as an entertainment moment or perhaps a study of the mind of cult members. That's what I have done in the last five years. It certainly will be an education that can be useful in the years to come to shield you from propaganda and cults.

  I am not asking you to sacrifice your truthfulness. You keep that, but don't waste it, or even harm yourself, by having a candid conversation with an elder.

  Just have fun knowing that you know far more than your teacher. However, you want to play dumb, very dumb, and perhaps drag the study to frustrate your "teacher". "Be stupid enough to not understand" and therefore be able to say that you are not ready for baptism, or pioneering, or anything that consumes your valuable time. Just don't play smart. that's not good at this time.
  
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  Pretend to support Critical Thinking, but forbid it when directed toward the "leadership"

  by doubtfull1799 in

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  2. beliefs

  this from the latest watchtower article on propaganda:.

  "keep in mind that satan does not want you to think clearly or reason things out well.

  because propaganda “is likely to be most effective,” says one source, “if peo- ple .

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  It's been some time since I read a Watchtower magazine. What a ride!! The article before (Be happy by enslaving to the GB) and the article after (GT and firearms) the propaganda article are also filled to bursting capacity with propaganda.

  These guys are shameless, absolutely shameless!
  
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  Pretend to support Critical Thinking, but forbid it when directed toward the "leadership"

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this from the latest watchtower article on propaganda:.

  "keep in mind that satan does not want you to think clearly or reason things out well.

  because propaganda “is likely to be most effective,” says one source, “if peo- ple .

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  And then this (the irony and hypocrisy are off the charts):
  

  
  

  
  

  "What is propaganda? In this context, it is the use of biased or misleading information to manipulate the way people think and act. Some equate propaganda with “lies, distortion, deceit, manipulation, mind control, [and] psychological warfare” and associate it with “unethical, harmful, and unfair tactics.”—Propaganda and Persuasion."

  "How dangerous is propaganda? It is insidious—like an invisible, odorless, poisonous gas—and it seeps into our consciousness. Because we may not see propaganda for what it is, behavior specialist Vance Packard observed: “Many of us are being influenced and manipulated—far more than we realize.” Under its influence, says one scholar, men and women have been “quite easily led into the most preposterously dangerous behaviour”—such as ‘genocide, war, racist hysteria, religious intolerance and many other forms of irrational behaviour.’—Easily Led—A History of Propaganda."
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  Pretend to support Critical Thinking, but forbid it when directed toward the "leadership"

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this from the latest watchtower article on propaganda:.

  "keep in mind that satan does not want you to think clearly or reason things out well.

  because propaganda “is likely to be most effective,” says one source, “if peo- ple .

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  John,
  

  Science and religion are entirely different animals. Science deal with the physical universe where evidence can be gathered, observed and analyzed by everyone (objectivity). Religion is a personal thing in the individual's brain and lacks any evidence, just emotional appeal (subjectivity). Comparison of religion and science is only adequate when you contrast them, not when trying to find similarities.

  If religious people such as yourself despise "scientism" so much and love "God" so much, why do they search for the best doctor when struck with cancer or any other chronic disease? Wouldn't it be better to go to your favorite pastor and get a quick cure in exchange for a small donation to the church?
  
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  #1 ANSWER THIS: Why would an omnibenevolent and omniscient god put us through tests of faith?

  by EdenOne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'll be starting a series "answer this:" with thought-provoking questions for debate.

  your arguments for and against are most welcome.. i'll start with this: .

  why would an omnibenevolent and omniscient god put us through tests of faith?.

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  Why would an omnibenevolent and omniscient god put us through tests of faith?

  Easy. God wrote a novel and needs the visuals of every page of his novel. He knows the end, but wants the movie version. Bring the popcorn!

  Even Shakespeare knew this: "All the world is a stage"
  
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  Shocking Admission on Univision: Obama Policy Led To Rockville Rape

  by Hecce in

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  shocking admission on univision: obama policy led to rockville rape.

  by jorge bonilla | march 22, 2017 | 1:06 am edt.

  below is a full transcript of the above referenced segment as it aired on noticiero univision on march 21st, 2017.. maria elena salinas, univision anchor: well...much indignation has been caused by the brutal rape of a student- a young student that...had been abused by some central american teenagers.

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  Simon... but they are still additional crimes, with victims that otherwise wouldn't be

  Assuming the conclusions from the Pew study are reliable,

  If most illegal aliens are presently employed, but later removed, then the crime rate will go up once they are replaced by a cross section of the population or legal immigrants.

  If they are not replaced and the economy shrinks instead, you still have a higher crime rate than before the removal of illegal aliens. So your argument doesn't hold.

  
  
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  Look over my shoulder at John

  by Doug Mason in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as i work slowly through my proposed study on the evolution of soteriology, i once again open myself up to your corrections, advice, and suggestions.

  this time i am providing my early rough draft on john's gospel and epistles (letters).

  http://www.jwstudies.com/the_experiences_and_writings_of_the_johannine_community.pdf.

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  Thank you Doug. I usually avoid the Greek scriptures because they seem less interesting than the Hebrew writings, but you have piqued my interest lately.
  
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  Amazing Video, modern-day miracle: "Chairs for Thousands"

  by neat blue dog in

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  2. humour

  god provides.

  https://tv.jw.org/#en/video/vodourorganization/pub-jwb_201703_4_video.

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  Super hot latina about 3:05 in

  Borderline cute only. I think you acquired the exaggerating style of Stephen Lett.
  
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  Shocking Admission on Univision: Obama Policy Led To Rockville Rape

  by Hecce in

  1. social
  2. current

  shocking admission on univision: obama policy led to rockville rape.

  by jorge bonilla | march 22, 2017 | 1:06 am edt.

  below is a full transcript of the above referenced segment as it aired on noticiero univision on march 21st, 2017.. maria elena salinas, univision anchor: well...much indignation has been caused by the brutal rape of a student- a young student that...had been abused by some central american teenagers.

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  If the coming wall prevented only one of these additional obscenities, it will be worth the money,

  Spoletta: By that logic, you could justify paying for an armed guard for every woman in the United States to prevent rape.

  
  

  Adding to your argument Spoletta, I am sure these people who think 30 billions dollars are worth paying even if it protects one woman only, they wouldn't mind paying twice as much for some goods and services whose prices are reduced by illegal immigrants' labor. I am not taking sides necessarily; I just want to provide a dose of reality.
  
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  NEW LIGHT Regarding the feet of Iron & Clay. Can someone confirm?

  by pale.emperor in

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  2. beliefs

  this appeared on my facebook today.

  can anyone confirm if this has official gb bullshit approval?.

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  Well, some truth there. False religion is being attacked, no doubt. Thank you ARC.